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Katie: Good day and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com. And this episode is all about one thing known as autojuvenation, which is mainly easy methods to use your physique’s personal regenerative capacity to feel and appear youthful. And I’m right here with Dr. Anthony Youn, who is named America’s holistic plastic surgeon. He’s a nationally acknowledged board-certified plastic surgeon who’s acknowledged as a pacesetter in his subject and writer of the bestselling books, The Age Repair, In Stitches, and Taking part in God. His public tv particular, The Age Repair with Dr. Anthony Youn, has been considered by tens of millions. And he additionally hosts the favored podcast, The Holistic Plastic Surgical procedure Present.
He’s probably the most adopted plastic surgeon on social media with over 4.5 million subscribers on his YouTube channel and eight million followers on TikTok. And his new guide, Youthful for Life, is a whole holistic information to turning again the clock on the method of growing old with autojuvenation. And we go deep on that matter in the present day, in addition to procedures he does and doesn’t advocate, how he thinks that a lot might be performed with out ever turning to surgical procedure to actually enhance pores and skin look and switch again the clock on growing old. And he offers some very particular suggestions for this. He’s so well-spoken and such a pleasure to speak to. So, let’s be a part of Dr. Anthony. Tony, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.
Anthony: Thanks a lot for having me.
Katie: I’m actually excited for this dialog and to speak about how we will primarily use our physique’s pure processes to age extra gracefully and even slower or reverse among the indicators of growing old. However earlier than we leap into that, I’ve a word out of your bio that you just as soon as performed guitar and sang in a Jimmy Buffett cowl band. And since we not too long ago misplaced him, I’d love to listen to this story and the way that began and what it was like.
Anthony: Yeah, I imply, I really began taking part in guitar again in faculty, and I’m very mediocre of a guitarist and singer. And so, after I began my residency, I simply, I’ve at all times had this sort of artistic streak. And I assumed, you realize, I’m this large fan of Jimmy Buffett. And I heard that there have been some people who find themselves concerned about placing a band collectively. So, I emailed a contact I had, and he stated, let’s do it. And we spent about, so I used to be, I did 5 years of residency. And through that point, we in all probability did about 50 or 60 gigs the place we’d do like play at events, at bars and stuff. And it was my approach of, I believe, dwelling out a, if I might choose one job that I might have that I simply, there’s no approach I might ever do, however I’d love could be like a rock star. And that was the closest that I’ll ever get to it. And as soon as I completed residency, I really moved out to California. Since then, I’ve really, and the band broke up, however since then I’ve performed for my church band often and stuff like that. So, it’s, it was lots of enjoyable, however. It was undoubtedly tiring as a result of as a resident, I’d even have days the place I’d work 36 hours after which I would go away the hospital, get became my like tropical garments and go play from 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. at a bar after which be again to work the subsequent morning at 6 a.m. So, it was powerful, but it surely was enjoyable.
Katie: Wow, I can solely think about, however in all probability an important artistic outlet throughout an in any other case extraordinarily targeted and intense interval of life. I like that you just did that and that’s really an ideal springboard into what would be the bulk of our dialog in the present day, which is the work that you just do now and the numerous 1000’s of individuals that you just’ve helped. I believe for form of simply background and place to begin, you employ a time period that I’ve not heard earlier than, which I imagine is autojuvenation. And I’d love so that you can clarify what which means and form of among the background for this dialog.
Anthony: Yeah, so simply to provide the background, I completed cosmetic surgery residency coaching, and I did a yr fellowship in beauty cosmetic surgery out in Beverly Hills with one of many high plastic surgeons there. Then I moved again to Michigan, and I began my follow again in 2004. And inside the subsequent in all probability 5 to seven years, I reached what I assumed was a pinnacle of success. On the time, as a surgeon, you gauge your success by the quantity of surgical procedure that you just do. And we’re at all times taught in our residency and our coaching that the purpose of being a surgeon is to deliver individuals to the working room. And so, I at all times imagine that that ought to be my purpose.
After which a affected person fully modified that and flipped that the other way up for me. So, I assumed I’d reached the top of success. And once you have a look at totally different fields of drugs, particularly with surgical procedure, there’s at all times a surgical procedure that’s thought of the top. And when you do this, you are feeling achieved. Should you’re a basic surgeon, that’s the Whipple. It’s like an enormous most cancers surgical procedure that may take eight to 12 hours. In cosmetic surgery, it’s in all probability the facelift. I imply, as a result of individuals might belief anyone to do their liposuction, however you’ll be darn certain if someone’s gonna reduce in your face that you just’re gonna be very picky about that. And so, about 5 to seven years into follow, I assumed that I’d reached the top of success. I used to be having individuals flying in from all around the nation to have me do their surgical procedure and their facelifts and all that. And I had a affected person that I did a faceless on, a very nice girl in her late 60s, and I did an operation on her that went completely. We really saved her in a single day within the hospital only for routine monitoring. Then she went house, and she or he went house on a Friday morning, and that Monday morning I got here into the workplace with a message from her daughter, and the message was, “Why did my mother die?” She died that weekend just some days after I carried out a facelift on her, and it despatched me right into a tailspin. As a result of up till then, I’d by no means really had a complication like that.
And so, I began trying like, to start with, like what occurred right here? Is there one thing I might have performed to stop this? And it seems she had a large coronary heart assault. Now we did have her see a heart specialist previous to her surgical procedure. She obtained fully cleared. She had a stress check. All the pieces was constructive. There’s no purpose why this could have occurred, but it did. And for months, I beat myself up over it. I used to be completely devastated. I thought of closing out my follow, and I actually re-looked at what am I doing with my job, with my profession, with my sufferers?
And I lastly got here to the belief that every part I used to be taught about being a surgeon was flawed. The purpose shouldn’t be to get individuals to the working room. The purpose ought to be the alternative. It ought to be, how do I preserve individuals out of the working room, but preserve them feeling nice about themselves and looking out nice and all of that? And so, I actually began to spend years then trying into different strategies of how do I get individuals the place they wanna be with out bringing them to surgical procedure? And I got here up with this idea of autojuvenation and it’s utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative skills to show again the clock, to provide you that look that you just’ve wished, to show again 5, 10 years and show you how to to really feel higher about the way you look.
Katie: Wow, that’s fairly the extreme story. And I can solely think about what it was like to truly have lived that have. However I like that you just introduced this up, particularly about surgical procedure, as a result of I do know for lots of the mothers listening, this is probably not one thing a lot of them have had, however I’d guess many have no less than thought of the provision of all of the totally different choices associated to surgical procedure. I do know, weak for me personally, after having six infants, I’ve thought of various kinds of pores and skin elimination surgical procedure, as an illustration. And I’ve at all times hesitated and by no means actually appeared into it significantly due to simply understanding issues like fascia and the way linked the entire physique is. I simply haven’t had a great instinct about it. However I like that you just, having such a deep understanding of the surgical facet, nonetheless got here to this conclusion and now assist individuals keep away from it. I’m curious when you might stroll us via among the dangers that include surgical procedure and in addition among the methods round that, as a result of I believe that’s in all probability a hope for lots of people to know there are different choices that it appears like that may work actually, very well.
Anthony: Yeah, and I believe that one of many surgical procedures I do lots of are tummy tuck surgical procedures, and it’s primarily on mothers, individuals who’ve had, ladies who’ve had a number of youngsters, their pores and skin has been stretched out, it doesn’t look or really feel the identical approach. Now, the dangers of surgical procedure begin with demise, and at any time when someone involves see me in session and so they say, “Hey, what’s the worst factor that may occur, Dr. Youn?” I’ll say, “You may die.” I’ll do every part in my energy to stop that, and we are going to take all of the steps obligatory that we will to make this as protected as doable, however it doesn’t matter what I do, like with this affected person who died after the facelift, you simply by no means know, and there’s a demise fee with elective surgical procedure, and it’s about one in 50,000 individuals who have beauty surgical procedure will die from the operation.
Now, normally it’s not as a result of a surgeon tousled, it’s normally anesthesia-related issues, underlying diseases, and that kind of factor, however there may be that danger, and in order that’s the very first thing you wanna consider. Particularly with the stomach, it’s a troublesome factor as a result of as soon as once more, at any time when I get individuals, and I get so many mothers that are available and say, “Hey, I’m desirous about a tummy tuck, what do you suppose?” The very first thing I’ll at all times inform them is, when you might be completely satisfied and wholesome and reside a fulfilled life with out going below the knife, then you need to keep away from surgical procedure. Nevertheless, when you can’t, there are individuals who come to see me and so they’ve had 4 children and their tummy muscle groups have been so separated, they really have again ache from it, and so they simply don’t really feel themselves the way in which that they need to really feel, then we will discuss concerning the specifics of the operation. There are lots of issues that we will do now although that may flip again the clock, that may give us a few of these outcomes that we had been searching for that perhaps 20 years in the past, we didn’t have it, we didn’t have, and so ideally if we will attempt to level the affected person in that path, that’s what I attempt to do.
Katie: That is smart. And that’s such an important balanced method. And it looks as if fantastic, knowledgeable consent. So, for the individuals who nonetheless do select to undergo with it, they’ve a deeper understanding of the chance concerned, in all probability have a greater grasp on restoration and issues they’ll do to assist as properly. However to circle again to this concept of autojuvenation, I like this as a result of it’s one thing I’ve been researching, no less than the idea of with out having a phrase for it not too long ago. I did lab testing for a corporation I’m contemplating investing in, and I discovered my organic age is definitely virtually 10 years youthful than my chronological age, which was actually thrilling. And in order that’s on a mobile degree.
However I believe for lots of us, there’s additionally that ingredient of the exterior going through and what our pores and skin appears like, particularly, particularly as ladies. And so, I believe I’d like to delve into the causes of that pores and skin growing old that’s seen after which additionally delve into a few of these issues that you just educate that may assist reverse that.
Anthony: Yeah, so thanks. So, I’d have a look at typically, I imagine there are 4 main causes of growing old of our pores and skin. The primary main trigger is collagen degradation. Seventy to 80% of our pores and skin consists of collagen. Collagen is mainly what induced our pores and skin to really feel tight and to really feel sturdy. And there’s collagen in our pores and skin, in our muscle groups, in our bones, in our joints, and different elements of our physique. However as we grow old, actually beginning within the mid to late 20s, we lose about 1% of the thickness of the collagen of our pores and skin yearly. Girls after menopause that will increase to about 2% a yr. And that’s why our pores and skin will get thinner as we grow old. And so, to attempt to combat that course of is likely one of the elements of autojuvenation.
Second reason behind growing old of the pores and skin is oxidation or free radicals. Free radicals are mainly unstable molecules which are created on account of simply regular metabolism. Our physique creates naturally free radicals as a byproduct of simply being alive. However we will get attacked by greater than that relying on what our life-style is. So, consuming lots of extremely processed and processed meals will enhance our physique’s quantity of free radicals that it has to take care of. Fried meals additionally free radicals. Even extreme stress has been discovered to extend free radicals. And when you’ve gotten too many free radicals attacking your physique on the similar time, it will probably really harm the DNA in your pores and skin and that may trigger untimely growing old. In order that’s quantity two.
The third reason behind growing old is irritation. And irritation might be acute, or it may be persistent. Acute irritation can really be a great factor. Whenever you get a reduce and your physique reacts to the reduce by creating some irritation to heal that reduce, that’s really a great factor. Typically doing sure issues, like let’s say getting a laser therapy or a chemical peel might be acute irritation and that may trigger the pores and skin really to be younger afterwards and the collagen to be tighter and younger showing and molecularly as properly.
And so, a persistent irritation is just not a great factor. And persistent irritation, one of many main causes of that’s sugar. And we all know sugar causes irritation since you get sugar spikes may cause insulin spikes, insulin spikes can create persistent irritation. And so, sugar is form of one of many large causes of irritation. After which the opposite reason behind irritation are superior glycation finish merchandise or AGEs. Sugar as soon as once more is a big offender right here as a result of when sugar is introduced into the physique, particularly when it’s in extreme quantities, it will probably really bond to the collagen of our pores and skin and trigger the collagen, which usually is, the way in which I described, it’s just like the logs of a log cabin. Collagen are these fibros which are usually form of caught collectively and are good and agency. However when sugar bonds to that collagen, it will probably trigger these logs to develop into frayed and that collagen to develop into mainly kinked. And that may trigger untimely growing old. So, irritation by superior glycation finish merchandise, which is when the sugar will connect the collagen, creating these AGEs and by persistent irritation, usually by sugar spikes and insulin spikes.
After which the fourth factor, fourth reason behind growing old of our pores and skin is mainly a buildup of mobile waste. And this is likely one of the issues that lots of people extra in conventional drugs don’t actually pay a lot consideration to. You’ll have dermatologists speaking about utilizing lotions to your pores and skin, however they don’t discuss attempting to get that technique of autophagy revved up. And our cells, as they’re mainly present process metabolism and form of the conventional every day life, will create mobile waste. And that waste must be taken care of, recycled, even reused utilizing a course of known as autophagy. And that’s intracellular mainly recycling or renewal. And that solely happens if you end up not consuming. And so, taking time to not eat, to quick, can really trigger that course of to happen by eliminating that intracellular waste. Our cells then perform extra effectively and successfully, and that is also anti-aging as properly.
Katie: That’s fascinating. And it undoubtedly leads into the query of what we will do about it, which I can guess just a few of the doable issues we will do primarily based on the way in which you clarify that. Issues like fasting in a approach that’s acceptable for our hormones, lowering our stress degree, being conscious of what we eat, and possibly consuming extra nourishing meals, much less extremely processed meals. However I’m certain there’s rather more that goes into it from there. Primarily based on what you stated, I’m wondering if individuals is perhaps pondering are collagen dietary supplements a good suggestion? Are there some other dietary supplements apart from simply collagen that may help collagen and wholesome collagen matrix within the pores and skin? So, I’d like to delve into that. What are issues we will do at house that assist battle every of these totally different causes?
Anthony: Precisely. And in my guide, Youthful for Life, I’ve mainly a three-week jumpstart that includes all of it. And so, the way in which I have a look at it’s it’s weight loss program, it’s what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements to take, and skincare merchandise to make use of. And when you concentrate on these as form of the first factor, then that may get you actually began. And we have now this 21-day jumpstart the place for 21 days, you mainly concentrate on these 4 issues, you possibly can actually flip again and see large adjustments in your pores and skin.
So so far as basic issues, you talked about collagen dietary supplements. Collagen dietary supplements are very controversial. I’ve obtained an enormous TikTok viewers, and I posted on collagen dietary supplements, and I’ve people who find themselves saying, “Oh, my physician stated collagen dietary supplements don’t work, your physique received’t take in it, it will get damaged down within the abdomen.” The actual fact is that collagen, once you purchase collagen, you need to be sure that it’s in collagen, hydrolyzed collagen peptides, primarily. So, collagen is an enormous protein. And when you simply ingest collagen typically, your physique, sure, will break it down. Whenever you have a look at collagen dietary supplements, that’s why collagen dietary supplements, one of the best ones, are hydrolyzed collagen peptides, as a result of it takes that collagen, that massive protein, and it breaks it down into tiny little peptides and amino acids that your physique can really take in. So, your physique does take in hydrolyzed collagen peptide dietary supplements, and there are research which have checked out it. There are a plethora of research which have proven useful impacts in your pores and skin with collagen. In reality, I’ll simply title one, which was a meta-analysis again in 2021 of 1,100 sufferers who took 90 days of hydrolyzed collagen dietary supplements, and so they discovered a statistically vital enchancment in wrinkles, pores and skin elasticity, and pores and skin hydration. So, you’re 1,100, it is a meta-analysis, so it is a mixture of a number of research. There are randomized managed scientific trials performed with collagen discovering mainly all the identical issues. And a few of them will really take biopsies of the collagen two months after someone begins taking collagen dietary supplements and seeing a rise within the thickness of the collagen of that pores and skin.
Katie: That’s fascinating. And does bone broth match into that class as properly? I do know there’s lots of discuss by like Dr. Kate Shanahan and others of those conventional meals that we largely have faraway from our fashionable diets that appear to be extraordinarily rejuvenating. Does bone broth match into that class as properly?
Anthony: It does. Now, apparently, bone broth makes lots of sense, however there aren’t any research that I do know of which were carried out which have really checked out bone broth and pores and skin. That being stated, what’s bone broth? You simmer all of the totally different, whether or not it’s the toes or the cartilage or any of these physique elements, for 48 to 72 hours. The massive factor with bone broth is it’s chock stuffed with collagen, however there are lots of totally different bone broths on the market. And one solution to inform whether or not it does have lots of collagen is when you warmth it up, it turns into mainly that soup. However when you let it cool, if it hardens or form of solidifies into gelatin, that gelatin is definitely collagen. And also you’ll know then that if it’s obtained these form of two phases, relying on the temperature, that probably you’ve obtained a great bone broth there. Now, bone broth is full of collagen, so it does make sense that when you ingest it, that that ought to enhance the collagen of your pores and skin. I’d say that it ought to, however there aren’t any true scientific research that I do know of which have both confirmed it or disproven it.
Katie: Acquired it. And also you talked about TikTok. I’ll hyperlink to yours within the present notes so individuals can discover you since you do submit lots of actually useful content material on there. I do know one other factor that has appeared to go viral on TikTok typically is the significance of hydration for pores and skin look. And I’m curious your tackle this. I’m at present an enormous fan of including minerals to our hydration as a result of minerals are essential, I believe, for hormones and sleep and lots of different issues as properly. However are there any research or have you ever seen in follow a profit for individuals really bettering their hydration ranges and that benefiting their look of their pores and skin?
Anthony: I believe typically, there may be enchancment. I don’t know of any precise research which have checked out it. I imply, we additionally have a look at topicals. Whenever you have a look at, let’s say, moisturizers you’re form of doing the identical factor. You’re attempting to lock that hydration into your pores and skin. However the way in which I’d describe that, I really had an individual ask me, “Dr. Youn, you’ve talked about 4 causes of growing old of the pores and skin. Why isn’t hydration a kind of, or dehydration?” And the very fact is, is that dehydration isn’t essentially gonna age your pores and skin on a mobile degree, per se. Now, when you’re dehydrated, sure, your pores and skin can get drier. It will probably look extra wrinkled. You may look older. However the reality is, is that’s not technically older pores and skin on a mobile degree. So, I undoubtedly advocate total hydrating. I believe, within the basic, a glass of water is sweet, however you additionally ideally wanna form of get extra particular with it. I do suppose the minerals are implausible. And also you solely have to ask skilled athletes, faculty athletes. So a lot of them now know that it’s not simply ingesting water or, God forbid, Gatorade. It’s ingesting water and including these particular minerals into it will probably actually assist forestall individuals from cramping. I really put minerals in my water the mornings that I function. As I’m getting older, I’m discovering that my fingers often will really cramp up. And so, I began placing minerals in my water each morning, and I’ve that additionally at lunchtime after I’m between operations and stuff, and it actually helps me, too.
Katie: I used to be fascinated to learn this statistic as a result of if we give it some thought, we’re usually advised we’re 60 no matter p.c water, however actually as people we’re that proportion of salt water or like mineral-rich water and that’s essential for electrical communication and a lot. And I learn that an individual who lives in a sizzling local weather or an athlete will lose extra minerals in 5 years than the common particular person will in a complete lifetime. And so that actually helped me understand like that is one thing to be intentional about replenishing if I’m going to maintain doing all these actions that launch all these minerals via sweat. I additionally need to circle again to autophagy and see if there are any good basic tips for kind of maximizing fasting or intermittent fasting for the pores and skin well being side particularly.
Anthony: Yeah, one of many issues that I encourage individuals to do, as a result of some individuals will quick for weight reduction. Some individuals will quick for hormones. Some individuals will quick, they’ve obtained many, many causes, however after I’m fasting purely from my perspective with my followers, my sufferers, it comes right down to anti-aging. And so, one of many issues that I like to recommend, and all people fasts a little bit bit in a different way. I attempt to encourage individuals to do a minimal. Now, lots of my followers should not fairly as holistically educated as yours. And so, for me, I attempt to encourage my followers to only begin with the fundamentals. And so, if all you begin off with is a 12-hour in a single day quick, that’s okay. You understand, that’s an enormous begin for some individuals. Ideally attempting to get that to a 16-hour quick. So, you cease consuming at eight p.m. and then you definitely don’t eat till midday the subsequent day is what I attempt to encourage individuals to do. A part of the 21-day jumpstart in my guide does comprise intermittent fasting.
One of many issues that I’ve, that we’ve seen work very well, was that on the day you break the quick, as a substitute of simply going again to your regular weight loss program, you go to an autophagy supporting weight loss program, okay? And what I imply by that’s that we do know that there are specific meals, although you break the quick, you should still have the ability to promote autophagy and that autophagy persevering with. And we all know that when you eat roughly 25 grams or extra of protein a day, that can cease autophagy together with carbs. So, protein and carbs actually decelerate or cease the autophagy course of. Wholesome fat, nevertheless, don’t. So, there are two forms of meals that may really promote autophagy that you could eat and theoretically proceed that autophagy course of throughout the remainder of that day. And people are wholesome fat like omega-Three fatty acids and monounsaturated fatty acids and meals which are full of polyphenols. So primarily, you’re omega-Three fatty acid wealthy meals, so chilly water fish, salmon, mackerel, trout, tuna, anchovies, that kind of factor. Should you have a look at monounsaturated fatty acids, then you definitely’re speaking about nuts and seeds. After which when you’re attempting to push polyphenol-rich meals, which polyphenols seem to additionally assist promote the autophagy course of, these are form of just like the darkish coloured fruits, like blackberries, plums, blueberries, strawberries, even black beans. And so, what we’ve performed with the 21-day jumpstart is on these days and also you break the quick, as a substitute of going again to regular weight loss program, you go on this primarily autophagy weight loss program to proceed that technique of autophagy, primarily till you’ve gotten an everyday breakfast the next morning. And we discovered that to be actually efficient for individuals.
Katie: That’s fascinating. And it is smart as a result of your physique could be in a heightened sense of with the ability to take in issues and also you’re placing actually wealthy, nutrient-dense issues into your physique that it might be willingly uptaking. I’ve observed too, I’ve performed lots of longer fasts, and I’ve talked on right here about that earlier than. And I discover that just a few days into a quick, I really will begin craving these actual meals that you just talked about, particularly as I’ve gotten an increasing number of used to fasting. I’d crave anchovies and raspberries and form of odd meals. However it is smart once you clarify it that approach. It’s like my physique was in all probability prepared for these meals to come back again in and to have the ability to take in them.
I do know one other controversial matter in relation to the subject of growing old and pores and skin particularly is the subject of daylight publicity. And I’ve been an enormous proponent on right here of issues like morning daylight for circadian rhythm and hormonal stability. And I personally have some genes the place if I take vitamin D dietary supplements, my vitamin D ranges don’t change. So, I do must get some from the solar. However we additionally know that an excessive amount of solar, in fact, can prematurely age the pores and skin. So, I’m curious your tackle that and what you discover is an efficient stability. I have a tendency to only put on a hat if I’m within the solar, however I like the sensation of sunshine on the remainder of my pores and skin. So how do you assist individuals or what do you advise on that?
Anthony: So, I believe that like with lots of issues in life, moderation is the important thing. I’ve associates of mine who’re dermatologists who each morning, it could be cloudy out and so they could also be sitting in a basement all day, however they’ll put their sunscreen on. After which I’ve holistic well being associates of mine who’re anti-sunscreen. I’ll let you know for me, I believe that there’s a good completely satisfied medium there someplace. Primary, doctor, particularly as a plastic surgeon, I’ve seen horrific pores and skin most cancers points in sufferers of mine and even associates of mine the place they get a pores and skin most cancers, they get Mohs surgical procedure, and half their nostril is gone afterwards. They usually come to me and I’m like, how do I reconstruct this? I imply, when you get a pores and skin most cancers in your face, it may be completely devastating. And so, you wanna do what you possibly can to stop that, particularly when you’ve obtained lighter coloured pores and skin and also you’re at larger danger.
So undoubtedly I encourage individuals total to put on sunblock, no less than an SPF of 30, particularly once you’re gonna be out within the solar. Nevertheless, I additionally know dwelling in Detroit, how therapeutic it’s to get the solar in your face, to see the daylight within the morning, and to actually get that solar. I imply, we escape to the Caribbean usually each winter as a result of man, it’s simply powerful right here within the wintertime. So, I do suppose that there’s a cheerful medium there. I believe that monitoring your vitamin D ranges, I believe is certainly essential. Ideally sporting the sunscreen, particularly when you’re gonna be out, however on the similar time, additionally getting that solar that you just want to your personal psychological well being and to your religious well being and to your inside well being as properly. So, I believe that there’s a cheerful medium there. I don’t suppose it’s important to go excessive a method or one other.
Katie: That’s an important perspective. And also you talked about collagen dietary supplements. I’m curious if there are some other dietary supplements that you just advocate typically. I do know there’s a very personalised side to any type of supplementation, however I’d guess there are some which are thought of typically supportive of pores and skin well being growing old.
Anthony: Yeah, so one of many elements of the 21-day jumpstart is a quite simple complement routine that I like to recommend mainly for everyone. So, the primary one is gonna be the collagen complement. The second is gonna be a multivitamin. The third one is gonna be omega-Three fatty acids. So as soon as once more, utilizing one thing that’s high-quality omega-3s, I believe it’s tremendous essential. What we do know is that these are wholesome fat that may really create a discount of irritation contained in the physique. And one of many 4 fundamental causes of pores and skin growing old is irritation. And that’s one of many large issues that you are able to do to combat that. So, omega-Three fatty acids, ideally from fish. Should you’re vegan, then go along with the allergy base, that’s wonderful.
After which a every day probiotic, I believe is essential. Increasingly more we’re studying that there’s a connection between the intestine and our pores and skin. And there’s a gut-skin axis that we’re studying an increasing number of about. And there are precise research now which are correlating sure points or situations that you’ve got within the intestine, like let’s say inflammatory or IBS with inflammatory pores and skin points. And so, taking a every day probiotic, the thought clearly is, and also you’ve talked about this in your present earlier than, however useful micro organism in your intestine, the well being of the intestine will actually present within the well being of your pores and skin.
After which the ultimate factor I like to recommend is simply taking an antioxidant complement of a wide range of antioxidants. We all know that our produce, our vegetables and fruit, do not need the identical diet now than they did 50 years in the past. There really was a examine, I’m unsure when you’ve talked about this in your podcast earlier than, however they really checked out our produce from the years 1950 to 1999. So, 49 years’ price of produce. They usually checked out how a lot dietary worth the produce had yearly. And that dietary worth decreased yearly in six fundamental vitamins. And people embrace vitamin C, protein, and iron. And so undoubtedly as soon as once more, taking let’s say a every day antioxidant complement may help with these tyes of potential nutrient deficiencies.
Katie: And I like that you just tackle the interior facet in such an in depth approach. I really feel like usually within the skincare dialog, the interior facet will get neglected. And I’ve had this dialog equally within the oral healthcare area with creating my toothpaste and all of the analysis that went into that and realizing we consider the mouth as kind of this remoted a part of our physique, but it surely’s so interconnected. And it’s not simply conserving our tooth clear by brushing and flossing, which is in fact essential, but it surely’s issues just like the fat-soluble vitamin content material in our physique and the mineral content material in our physique and the way these issues are interacting in our saliva to have the ability to create mineral stability in our mouth.
And I’d guess there’s additionally this side in relation to pores and skin well being, the place all these items we have now in our physique, in fact, are gonna feed our pores and skin from the within out. After which in fact, there are issues we will do from the surface in. So, in relation to skincare, what are some good basic tips for individuals to pay attention to to form of battle these indicators of growing old?
Anthony: And I believe what you stated hits it proper on the nail. Dermatologists historically focus simply on skincare and holistic well being consultants focus simply on the intestine. And I’ve associates of mine who’re like, “Oh, you need your pores and skin to be higher, focus in your intestine.” And it’s like, properly, you are able to do each. You may focus in your intestine, and you should utilize the appropriate skincare. And ideally that’s the way you need to deal with it. And I don’t know of lots of people speaking about each. So, I respect asking a query.
What I normally advocate for people who find themselves saying, “Hey, what do I do for a easy skincare routine that I do know is gonna work?” And also you don’t have to spend so much of time. You don’t must do a 12-step Korean skincare routine. Should you preserve it to the fundamentals, that technically is sufficient. So, each morning you wanna cleanse your pores and skin with a cleanser acceptable to your pores and skin kind. Should you’ve obtained oily pores and skin, then ideally a foaming-type cleanser will assist to scale back a few of that extra oil. Should you’ve obtained dry pores and skin, then use a milky or hydrating cleanser.
After which after that, you wanna use an antioxidant serum. Vitamin C is the most typical that the majority skincare corporations have. And the thought is you wanna combat off these free radicals. As soon as once more, one of many 4 fundamental causes of pores and skin growing old, free radicals, oxidation; antioxidants combat that. So, utilizing an antioxidant serum each morning might be very useful. A bonus is when you mix vitamin C and vitamin E serums, and a few of them comprise each of them in a single, they’re discovered to be synergistic in research and combating free radicals. So, when you wanna take that to the subsequent degree, not only a vitamin C, do a vitamin C and E serum within the morning.
After which I’d comply with that with a sunscreen. As soon as once more, we talked about form of moderation. Should you want a little bit little bit of solar, by all means do what it’s essential to do to your personal bodily and psychological well being. And that’s all it’s important to technically do within the morning: cleanse, serum, antioxidant serum, and sunscreen.
At evening, you wanna cleanse your pores and skin. Should you solely cleanse your pores and skin as soon as a day, make certain it’s no less than at evening since you gotta eliminate the day’s price of mud, air pollution, grime, and your make-up particularly, okay? Positively use a cleanser. Some individuals even double cleanse. We’re utilizing oil cleanser first to eliminate form of the filth and the oil and the make-up, after which comply with that up along with your basic cleanser afterwards.
And then you definitely wanna apply an anti-aging moisturizer or cream. The one that the majority plastic surgeons and dermatologists advocate, the one which I like to recommend as a place to begin is a retinol. Retinol is a type of vitamin A and might be probably the most scientifically studied anti-aging ingredient that there’s. And the thought behind that isn’t solely does it combat growing old, but it surely additionally causes the pores and skin to show over, it helps to scale back darkish spots, and it will probably even doubtlessly reverse early pre-skin cancers. So, it’s an enormous deal. And when you choose one anti-aging cream, then I’d choose a retinol. And most skincare merchandise have some kind of retinol in them. Of their, let’s say, even cream.
Should you wanna apply moisturizer on high of that, be happy. You understand, lots of us, we grew up with our mothers making use of chilly cream at evening. You don’t must take care of chilly cream. Loads of these chilly lotions I’m not an enormous fan of due to all of the perfume and all that that may be irritating to your pores and skin. However when you wanna apply moisturizer on high of that, relying on how your pores and skin is, then be happy to try this. However as soon as once more, conserving in thoughts, like hydrating with water, that’s not gonna be anti-aging on a mobile degree, however might be extra for consolation.
After which the ultimate factor is each three days or so, you wanna ideally exfoliate your pores and skin. So, with both a bodily exfoliator, which is usually a little scrub, or you are able to do a chemical exfoliation with an alpha hydroxy acid. And technically that’s it. So, morning, you cleanse, you apply an antioxidant serum, after which a sunscreen, and the night you cleanse, apply an anti-aging cream like a retinol, moisturizer as wanted, after which twice every week or so exfoliate your pores and skin.
Katie: And as you had been explaining that, and that was an important record, by the way in which, I used to be pondering too, these are additionally nutrient deficiencies that usually exist in People, particularly internally. Like we’ve seen our ranges of essential issues like vitamin C, like vitamin A decline, particularly with age and particularly with the way you defined our meals has misplaced nutrient density through the years. So, it is smart, such as you’re saying, take a multifaceted method, nourish your self from the within out to provide your physique these vitamins, after which additionally apply them to the pores and skin. And then you definitely’re form of hitting either side of it and giving your physique one of the best probability at, such as you stated, this isn’t that we’re doing one thing to the physique, it’s serving to the physique do what it already is aware of easy methods to do.
Anthony: And that’s precisely what I imply by the entire technique of autojuvenation. It’s taking all of these issues that perhaps no person has actually put all collectively and saying, “Hey, you realize what, we will put all this collectively and we will flip again the clock, really feel higher, look higher, have higher power.” And when you wanna take another steps, you realize, there are different issues you are able to do like purple gentle remedy at house. That’s a good way to additionally assist to show again the clock of your pores and skin. Some individuals do dermaplaning, which primarily is a therapy we do within the workplace the place you take away a layer of useless pores and skin cells, and you are able to do that at house. There’s a lot that you are able to do that doesn’t entail injections or surgical procedure.
Katie: I like that. That was going to be certainly one of my follow-up questions as properly was, is purple gentle useful? It’s one thing I’ve experimented with. I believe even useful for thyroid well being for me personally was a factor I observed. And now there are such a lot of house units which are rather more inexpensive than they was once and that may make that, such as you stated, a house therapy as properly.
Anthony: And there are research, a lot of research that do present useful results of purple gentle remedy therapies on the standard of your pores and skin. The query, the research haven’t appeared on the actual mechanism. We expect that which will assist with the mitochondria and serving to with total having your cells primarily be extra superpowered primarily. We don’t know 100% for certain if that’s what causes the anti-aging, the bodily advantages so far as in your pores and skin, however we do know that there are a number of research that present that the pores and skin does look younger when you do common purple gentle remedy therapies on it.
Katie: Nice to know. I’m additionally curious, one other factor that appears to be circulating TikTok is the development of doing various kinds of like lymphatic or facial therapeutic massage, the place I’ve performed for years dry brushing on the remainder of my physique, not a lot my face. I’m curious if there’s any significance to that that you just’ve seen in your work. I’d guess these are no less than in all probability not dangerous practices, whether or not or not they’re tremendous efficient is perhaps up for debate. I simply observed, as an illustration, if I do lymphatic therapeutic massage on my face earlier than mattress, I are likely to sleep very well. And if I do dry brushing within the morning, I get a burst of power. However past that, do you are feeling like there’s something useful to it?
Anthony: So, I believe what you get with each of these is you do get the, mainly you get your lymph channels extra energetic. And so, we have now lymph channels in our physique, for individuals don’t fairly perceive what that’s, is, you realize, we’ve obtained blood vessels, we have now veins and arteries that transfer blood, however there’s really a separate system of form of like, like vessels primarily which are known as lymph and lymph primarily strikes immune cells and excessive protein kind of fluid via our physique. And so, after we develop, let’s say we have now irritation of the physique, you realize, both from an damage or typically it’s from consuming the flawed meals and stuff like that, then you possibly can develop fluid that form of builds up and it builds up and also you don’t eliminate that fluid. You may’t push it out via the arteries and veins. You push it out via the lymphatic system. And that’s what lots of people like with dry brushing. The rationale why you don’t dry brush from the within out is since you need to push that fluid in the direction of the path of the lymphatics. Once I do surgical procedure on individuals, we attempt to have individuals therapeutic massage in the direction of the path of these lymphatics to assist transfer that fluid via. So, utilizing, let’s say a gua sha system, utilizing, let’s say a jade curler, that’s what that’s doing helps to maneuver that fluid via. Now, when you add that with sure issues like coolness, lots of people put their jade curler within the fridge or the freezer, then you too can assist to shrink among the pores and skin down quickly.
As soon as once more, we’re not speaking a couple of long-term kind of a change, however you possibly can see some good enhancements. So, when you’re going to go to, let’s say, a category reunion and also you need to perform a little gua sha previous to going out, that may assist snatch your neckline a little bit bit extra and show you how to really feel higher about your look then, by all means, that’s good. Dry brushing, although, additionally provides on high of that, although, the good thing about exfoliation of our pores and skin. You understand, Koreans have performed that kind of factor for a whole bunch of years, however they’re not good. You understand, when you’ve ever been to a Korean spa, it’s not only a dry brush. They take what primarily appears like sandpaper and so they simply rub your physique from head to toe with it. Some individuals find it irresistible, some individuals hate it as a result of it’s painful, however afterward, your pores and skin’s gonna really feel clean as a child’s butt.
Katie: I’ve gotten to have that have as soon as and it was fairly the expertise, however I don’t suppose the top of my grownup life has ever felt so mushy because it did after that. So, I’d be within the class of people that find it irresistible. Curious from a extra superior perspective too, I believe all of these items are so foundational and essential for everybody.
I usually discuss this; the straightforward issues can usually be neglected due to their simplicity. Even when somebody desires to do the extra superior biohacks, I at all times say get gentle dialed in first, get sleep dialed in, get diet dialed in, as a result of the rest you do goes to be simpler anyway. However don’t simply leap to the costly shiny objects first, since you’re going to get a greater bang to your buck when you do the foundational issues first. So, I’d guess there’s very a lot the same factor in relation to pores and skin therapies. However I do know that no less than from the web, I’ve seen there’s dozens no less than choices of extra superior skincare therapies individuals can do both at house or in workplace. And I’d love to listen to your tackle those which are really efficient and price it or perhaps any that aren’t actually price it and or perhaps extra dangerous to keep away from.
Anthony: Yeah, so I imply, the very first thing is after I have a look at it’s a bang to your buck. And the issue that we have now in beauty drugs proper now’s that there are such a lot of units on the market. And the system corporations will promote their units to shoppers attempting to form of strain docs and med spots to purchase them saying, “Oh, when you use this, then you definitely’re going to get extra individuals within the door.” And it turns into a scenario the place if all you’ve gotten is a hammer, every part appears like a nail, and it’s important to be as a shopper, you could pay attention to this.
So, when you’re going to get a beauty therapy performed, you need to just remember to go to a spot that has a plethora of choices accessible for you, so that they don’t simply select the one system they’ve that they use on all people. They select a tool that’s going to work greatest for you. I’d begin with the fundamentals. Should you’re new to the cosmic area and also you say, “Hey, look, I’ve been doing every part that you just’re speaking about, Dr. Youn. I’m doing the weight loss program stuff. I’m intermittent fasting. I’m utilizing the skincare and dietary supplements, however I’ve obtained these spots that simply received’t go away. They usually actually, I really feel like I’d prefer to clear my pores and skin up. What are you able to do this’s not going to be costly or tremendous painful?” Very first thing I’d advocate could be to start out on a brightening cream. Brightening cream that comprises kojic acid, niacinamide, and/or licorice root extract. That can assist with the darkish spots from the within out. However if you wish to take that to the subsequent degree, think about IPL therapies, Intense Pulse Gentle. This is sort of a laser. The factor with IPL that’s nice is that the units should not tremendous costly to buy, and lots of locations have them. It’s chemical free. So, to your listeners who’re actually desirous to attempt to keep away from extra chemical compounds within the atmosphere, that is actually simply gentle that can really zap the darkish spots, trigger them to show darker, and inside a couple of week, they begin to slup off. You mix that with a great pure brightening cream and that may actually goal these spots properly. In order that’s for spots.
Should you’re searching for total simply facial rejuvenation, microneedling is a good way to try this. Microneedling, I believe, is big with autojuvenation as a result of it primarily is utilizing your physique’s personal therapeutic mechanisms to truly flip again the clock. I discussed earlier, collagen in our pores and skin, they’re form of just like the logs of a log cabin. They’re these fibrils that stick collectively. And as we grow old, they develop into extra kinked, and so they begin to disintegrate a bit. And any of the therapies that we do, whether or not it’s laser, chemical peels, microneedling, we’re inflicting a managed trauma to the pores and skin. That trauma to the collagen causes the collagen because it heals to heal again in a tighter vogue. Primarily like placing these logs again tightly into that log cabin. When the therapy is so aggressive that it’s too damaging, then you may get scarring, and we don’t wanna go that far, clearly.
Microneedling is a good therapy that could be very cheap in comparison with different forms of therapies as a result of the system that we use to do it actually prices us perhaps $3,000 or $4,000 to buy, which within the scheme of beauty drugs in comparison with $200,000 for a laser is just not that dangerous. And what that does, it makes tiny little pokes within the floor of the pores and skin, creating that acute irritation, inflicting the collagen to tighten up. Should you wanna take that one step additional, then you possibly can apply PRP to the floor of your pores and skin and that comprises progress elements. PRP mainly, what we do is we draw your blood, we spin it down, take away the platelets, that are chock stuffed with your individual pure progress elements. After which once you do the microneedling, mainly these tiny little holes which are made by these tiny little needles go to the deeper pores and skin. Should you do it in a short time after the microneedling and also you apply that PRP on the floor of your pores and skin, it can seep into these tiny little holes to primarily rejuvenate your pores and skin from the within out. And that is all pure. It’s simply utilizing your physique’s personal regenerative processes. And that additionally, as soon as once more, in comparison with 1000’s of {dollars} for a laser or a deep, deep chemical peel, a lot, a lot inexpensive.
Katie: That’s nice to know. And I do know you go into much more depth in your guide, which I need to make certain we talked about, it’s known as Youthful for Life. And I’ll put that hyperlink within the present notes as properly, since you get very detailed and you’ve got that complete, I imagine, 21-day plan in there. And so, there’s lots of actually detailed data in there.
However I’d additionally like to get your kind of speedy hearth tackle among the extra controversial issues associated to cosmetic surgery and all that goes with it. I suppose the primary one could be issues like laser hair elimination since you talked about lasers are dearer. I do know there’s ache concerned with that one, good or dangerous or detached so far as impact on the physique and what you advocate or don’t there.
Anthony: I believe that may be very useful for sure individuals, particularly when you’ve obtained points with folliculitis, when you’ve obtained points with ingrown hairs, then that may be very useful. On the whole, we advocate going to a dermatologist or plastic surgeon’s workplace, however there at the moment are at-home laser hair elimination units which have develop into fairly efficient. And so, if, let’s say you reside in an space and also you don’t have entry to a health care provider, look into a few of these at-home laser hair units, as a result of it may be, as soon as once more, fairly efficient.
Katie: And so far as I do know, there’s none that work very well for gentle coloured hair. That’s the draw back for me.
Anthony: That’s the challenge, is you want pigment within the hair as a result of the precise lasers goal colours. Mainly, they create warmth primarily based off of the colour. And so most laser hair elimination units, the colour is brown. And so, it really works very well with gentle pores and skin, darkish hair. Should you’ve obtained gentle pores and skin and lightweight hair doesn’t work as properly, sadly. And also you don’t actually have any, aside from electrolysis, there aren’t some other nice choices for it sadly.
Katie: Okay, that’s what I assumed, however good to know and confirm. The following semi extra controversial one I’d ask about is Botox. I do know that is undoubtedly fashionable amongst lots of the age teams, no less than the people who find themselves listening. It’s one thing I’ve at all times had lots of hesitation round, simply having recovered from autoimmune illness. I’m not a fan of placing something that my physique might not acknowledge in my physique, however I do know many ladies do go for Botox. So, what’s your tackle Botox and if execs, cons, what to weigh?
Anthony: So, it’s the preferred beauty therapy within the historical past of the world. About 5 million or extra individuals endure Botox yearly. You could not have recognized this as we discuss. I’ve some like proper right here. And what Botox does is it’s a neurotoxin. It’s probably the most highly effective toxins within the universe that we all know of. However when you inject within the tiniest quantity within the muscle groups, it can forestall the nerve transmission to these muscle groups and trigger these muscle groups to not work for about three or 4 months. And when you inject it into wrinkles, just like the entrance lens between the eyebrows, the brow, or the crow’s toes, it will probably trigger these wrinkles, primarily, these muscle groups, to then loosen up and people wrinkles to clean out.
There are a handful of individuals on-line who do really feel that they’ve had systemic reactions to Botox, to the place they’ve had sure forms of diseases. I’ve performed lots of analysis into it. In my follow, we in all probability handled 5,000 – 10,000 individuals minimal with Botox. I’ve by no means had a serious complication from it of these 5,000, 10,000 individuals, not one. However we do know that Botox, when it’s injected, can really get into the cerebral spinal fluid. There have been research which have checked out mice and discovering that. So, you realize, I believe with something, it’s gonna be a danger profit evaluation. I’m not a fan of younger individuals getting Botox as prophylaxis. I believe that’s loopy. There are people who find themselves encouraging that. I believe that when you’ve obtained these traces, they actually trouble you, you wanna strive it, begin small, begin within the frown traces between the brows, and you’ll at all times add extra later in order for you.
Katie: That is smart. And I’m actually not one to evaluate if anyone chooses to try this. The one I’d say doesn’t seem to be an important concept to me. And hopefully this isn’t a development that’s catching on. I’ve seen individuals injecting it into their entice muscle groups to make their neck look thinner. And to me, activating a complete muscle doesn’t seem to be one of the best concept.
Anthony: Yeah, I imply that you realize what that’s, is that there are docs on the market who’re utilizing the Barbie phenomenon to attempt to earn a living. And so, the thought is it’s Entice Tox or Barbie Tox is what they’re calling it to attempt to get a Barbie neck. There’s at all times docs on the market, sadly, who’re attempting to govern social media and their followers to get stuff that actually isn’t all that useful for them. And a part of it’s to allow them to get within the information. You understand, it’s a clout factor. Persons are doing it for clout. And it’s unlucky. You understand, it’s the identical factor with a few of them recommending like Barbie makeovers. Should you do all these operations to seem like Barbie. And it’s simply because the Barbie film was so fashionable.
However in the long run, with basic surgical procedure, much less is extra. I inform my sufferers, you by no means remorse basic surgical procedure that you just didn’t do. You solely remorse the work that you just did that you just perhaps shouldn’t have had performed. So actually at all times give it some thought. And I’m a plastic surgeon. I do lots of surgical procedure, however the factor is you need to use surgical procedure at all times as a final resort. And sadly, that’s not the case for lots of docs on the market. It’s very disappointing.
Katie: And one other much more controversial one, in fact, is breast implants. And I’ve had individuals on right here, each docs and individuals who have skilled signs like a breast implant sickness. So, I’m curious your tackle that and any suggestions you’ve gotten earlier than, throughout, after, or typically.
Anthony: So yeah, I used to be one of many first plastic surgeons to go public that I imagine breast implant sickness is actual. And I had lots of my colleagues very indignant with me. You understand, I went via my conventional coaching and was advised dogma in my coaching is that breast implants don’t make individuals sick. And lots of plastic surgeons appeared on the moratorium being lifted on silicone breast implants again in 2006, 2007, as being proof that implants are protected.
The actual fact is, once you have a look at literature outdoors of the cosmetic surgery scientific literature, you have a look at the rheumatology literature, and there are undoubtedly research and surveys and case stories of people that do get sick from their implants. And once you take implants out of someone who believes they’ve breast implant sickness, about 55 to 85 p.c of them, their signs will enhance with these implants taken out. I do imagine and I do know lots of holistic well being influencers who’ve breast implants, a few of them we’re associates with, widespread associates with, and so they’re wholesome with them, however that’s not all people. And I believe it’s a person course of. We have to know extra about it and sufferers have to be knowledgeable of it. The horrible factor, although, is I do know that there are plastic surgeons on the market telling sufferers that once they come to them and I’ve sufferers inform me this, I went to see this physician, I advised him I believe my implants are making me sick and he stated I have to see a psychiatrist. Not get my implants out. I have to see a psychiatrist. It’s maddening.
Katie: Wow. Properly, thanks for clearing that up. And I’m glad to listen to on so many of those ranges that there are such a lot of choices individuals can do even from house that may make a noticeable distinction. I believe that’s actually encouraging information. And I like that it comes from you being able to advocate each and with the ability to do the extra superior procedures as properly that you just’re nonetheless the voice of claiming, and there’s these items you are able to do that aren’t surgical and surgical procedure may not be the reply. I like such a balanced viewpoint. And I like that you’ve got been this voice for therefore many ladies. And a few questions I like to ask for the top of interviews. The primary being if there’s a guide or variety of books which have had a profound impression on you personally, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why.
Anthony: So, I learn the guide, How To not Die, and I’m not vegan or plant-based, however I actually discovered that one modified my outlook, and actually helped to push me to put in writing the guide that I wrote, Youthful for Life. And the rationale why I believe I discovered it so fascinating is as a result of it was so primarily based in research and references. And that was one thing that for me, I assumed, you realize what, if I’m gonna write a guide, I wanna have my guide be as well-researched as his. Now, as soon as once more, I’m not plant primarily based. And among the issues that Dr. Greger has in his guide, I disagree with, however I do admire that he did go the additional route and that every part in there has proof behind it, as a result of there are such a lot of books on the market that simply put individuals’s opinions on the market and there’s no precise proof behind it. And the truth that he does embrace all these references and every part, to me, that was an enormous deal.
Katie: I’ll embrace a hyperlink to that within the present notes as properly. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners that could possibly be associated to the issues we’ve talked about or fully unrelated recommendation.
Anthony: Yeah, my fundamental recommendation is that you could feel and appear your greatest with out going below the knife. Should you simply stick to the ideas of autojuvenation: weight loss program, what to eat, when to eat, dietary supplements, and skincare. Should you simply stick to that, you’re going to be forward of 98% of individuals. Should you add a few of these different issues we talked about, purple gentle remedy, dermaplaning, when you take note of your sleep, the appropriate forms of train, cut back your environmental exposures, and also you’ll be even farther. So, concentrate on these issues first. Should you’re desirous about cosmetic surgery, do that different stuff first earlier than you go see a plastic surgeon as a result of hopefully it’s possible you’ll discover that by doing all this, your need to see a plastic surgeon goes away.
Katie: Properly, I respect all these items that you just’ve shared with us on this podcast, like I stated, I do know there’s a lot extra in your guide, so extremely advocate you guys examine that out. There’s an absolute wealth of information in there. Thanks a lot to your time. This has been such a enjoyable dialog and I’m so grateful we obtained you coming.
Anthony: Thanks a lot, Katie, respect it.
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