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Katie: Whats up and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from WellnessMama.com. And this episode is all a few useful medication tackle intestine well being, thyroid well being, and lowering autoimmunity with Dr. Amy Myers. And we go in quite a lot of instructions on this podcast. She is a two-time bestselling writer and internationally acclaimed medical and useful medication doctor who makes a speciality of empowering these with autoimmune, thyroid and digestive points to take again their well being and reverse their situation. And he or she additionally did two and a half years with the Peace Corps in Paraguay.
And he or she set off on a journey that will lead her to later launch her now well-known useful medication clinic and her academic content material and line of applications that you’ll find on-line. And we go deep about quite a lot of her specialty on this, together with her personal drastic story with typical medication and why she feels it failed her and the way she’s vowed to assist it not fail folks sooner or later. We discuss concerning the frequent triggers and causes within the rise of continual illness, why she defines autoimmunity as a spectrum and the commonalities amongst them, methods to know the place you might be on the spectrum. She talks concerning the 5 elements that may contribute, that are toxins, infections, intestine points, weight-reduction plan and stress, why three quarters of the triggers and causes will not be genetic and are inside our management to alter.
We discuss concerning the energy of the thoughts and the way a lot our internal voice pertains to well being, and he or she shares in all probability essentially the most profound instance of this I’ve heard. She talks about her 4 pillars of useful well being, methods to tackle and take away toxins within the physique, how our intestine cells flip over each 24-48 hours to allow them to truly restore in a short time, why we’d like a variety of meals for intestine variety, together with issues like greens, spices, and herbs, and when to keep away from fermented meals, methods to know which plant meals are finest in your particular genes and ancestral wants, how seasonal consuming might help with intestine well being, and methods to apply the 80/20 precept to optimum residing. So let’s bounce in with Dr. Amy Myers. Dr. Amy, welcome. Thanks a lot for being right here.
Dr Amy Myers: Thanks for having me, Katie. I’m tremendous excited.
Katie: Me too, I really feel like this dialog is lengthy overdue and I’m extraordinarily excited to be taught from you immediately. I believe to begin off broad, some background on you may truly be essentially the most useful start line for this dialog since you’ve mentioned that typical medication failed you and also you’re on a mission to maintain it from failing different folks. And I believe your story illustrates a extremely profound purpose why you do the work that you just do. So let’s begin there. How did you get into this, what’s now your entire world and this work that you just do?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, effectively, it’s a really lengthy story, however to make it quick, I grew up with mother and father that had been very holistic. My father was a professor of Asian research. My mom taught yoga and jogged again within the 70s. And so if we had been ever sick, which was very not often, he took Chinese language herbs. My mom was very aware of the microbiome, made home made yogurt once we had been little, home made entire wheat bread. So I kind of grew up with this. My mom taught yoga, meditation, despatched me to Transcendental Meditation after I was in highschool. So I kind of grew up in a, I wouldn’t classify them as hippies, however simply kind of, you understand, that type of world.
And I went to varsity, thought I used to be gonna be a psychologist on the finish, determined that I wasn’t gonna try this and have become a banker of all issues. After which learn a e-book known as, The Highway Much less Traveled, it actually resonated with me about kind of going on the market and never doing what everyone else is doing. And for no matter purpose, I at all times had a ardour to present and to assist. And so I joined the Peace Corps truly after I was 25. And on my method all the way down to the Peace Corps, I learn a e-book by Andrew Weil, Spontaneous Therapeutic, and it acquired me reinvigorated by way of pure therapeutic, herbs, issues like that. Taught myself yoga down within the Peace Corps.
Lengthy story quick, got here again and determined I needed to be a health care provider. I truly moved out to Seattle to go to doubtlessly naturopathic medical faculty. And after working with some medical doctors there, realized that even in Seattle, the standard medical doctors and the naturopathic medical doctors had been getting paid in another way and simply considered in another way. And I believed, effectively, that is type of odd as a result of I’m out within the place the place they’ve this faculty they usually’re alleged to be actually revered. And so anyway, I made the choice to go to allopathic medical faculty, however with the concept I’d find yourself doing one thing holistic, pure on the finish of all of it. So I took all my electives of an integrative medication. I began a complimentary and different curiosity group. We even began a program on the college. I went to LSU in New Orleans.
And my second 12 months of medical faculty, I began getting panic assaults. I used to be reducing weight quickly whereas consuming, you understand, Ezekiel bread and vegan butter at evening, to not get up, two kilos thinner. And eventually had this tremor that despatched me to the physician and he or she brushed me off and mentioned, oh, that is medical faculty stress. Your second 12 months, you’re studying all these ailments and also you simply suppose you could have all of them. And I mentioned, wait a minute. I imply, I actually lived in the course of nowhere earlier than cell telephones or something within the Peace Corps. My mom had died unexpectedly of pancreatic most cancers in 4 months proper after I acquired again from the Peace Corps. It’s like, I don’t deal with stress like this. This isn’t stress, one thing’s incorrect with me.
So I demanded a workup and he or she known as me again a few weeks later and I don’t suppose she actually apologized and he or she mentioned, oh, you could have Graves’ illness, which is an autoimmune dysfunction of your thyroid. And that was what was the reason for all of my signs, the insomnia, the burden loss, the entire tremor, every part. And so I used to be given three horrible decisions. One was to have my thyroid blown up like Hiroshima. The opposite was to take actually poisonous medicine. And the opposite one was to have my thyroid lower out.
So I went again to my roots and I did Chinese language medication for a few months and I didn’t actually see a distinction in that. In the meantime, I used to be consuming a lot of gluten and vegan cheeses. I used to be a vegetarian and on and off vegan for 27 years. After which in the end I succumbed and I mentioned, all proper, I’ll take the medicine. It appears to be the lesser of all of those evils. Inside a few weeks, I used to be feeling horrible. My pores and skin was dry, my hair was falling out, I used to be fatigued. Went again to the physician and I used to be informed that I used to be one in one million and I had poisonous hepatitis from the medication. So I rapidly needed to get off of that. I almost needed to drop out of medical faculty as a result of I needed to go get in mattress and my liver was destroying itself from this medicine, and principally had to determine was I then gonna have my thyroid blown up or have it ripped out surgically.
I reached out to Andrew Weil, I seemed in all of the analysis, I may discover nothing that gave me another or pure method to this. So I made the toughest resolution of my life and I had my thyroid radioactively ablated.
And after that, I used to be nonetheless in medical faculty. I graduated, I turned an ER doctor at Shock Trauma in Maryland, after which in the end an ER doctor right here in Austin, Texas. And… At some point I simply mentioned, I’ve acquired to get again to my roots. I imply, although they, typical medication, handled my graves by blowing up my thyroid, and now I don’t have a thyroid, there’s gotta be one thing higher. I’ve gotta get again to. I went to medical faculty within the first place.
So I went to a convention about useful medication, which is absolutely attending to the basis of why you could have sure circumstances, notably autoimmunity and determining methods to appropriate imbalances at that route and in the end hopefully reversing or therapeutic, no matter’s occurring with you. So that basically resonated with me and why I needed to go to medical faculty to start with. And so I dove straight in and finally opened up a world famend useful medication clinic.
I left the ER, wrote a number of books, that are behind me and, and, you understand, went full power into useful medication and now helped actually a whole lot of 1000’s of individuals around the globe, however actually 1000’s of individuals with Graves illness reverse their situation and never should do what I did. In order that’s why I say it’s my typical medication failed me and is my mission to not have it fail you too. In order that was a little bit of an extended story, however that’s how I acquired to changing into a useful medication doctor after which in the end now proudly owning a well being and wellness firm. As you understand, Amy Myers MD.
Katie: Oh, and there’s so many particular instructions I need to go on this, as a result of I do know there are a lot of folks listening who’ve some type of auto-immunity or thyroid points. There are undoubtedly folks going by means of intestine points. And I additionally know that there are in all probability some frequent themes that run all through quite a lot of these issues. So I’d love to speak first about what you see as among the large triggers or contributors to the rise throughout the board in quite a lot of these issues that we’re seeing actually in America, however in different elements of the world as effectively.
Dr Amy Myers: So by way of all continual circumstances and autoimmunity, so I write about in my first e-book, the autoimmune answer, I used to be the person who coined the phrase, the autoimmune spectrum. So by that’s, you could have somebody down right here with little to no irritation, and then you definitely’re working your method up larger on the spectrum with extra irritation all the best way to full blown continual autoimmunity.
Now there are in all probability only a few folks have completely no irritation as we all know, infants are being born with toxins and whatnot on the planet, however most of us sit someplace on this spectrum all the best way as much as continual illness or continual autoimmunity. And there are 5 elements that I write about in each of my books, and that’s toxins, infections, our intestine, leaky intestine, meals, since our weight-reduction plan, and stress. And so I can stroll by means of every of those and the way they’ve actually all of those areas have exploded for many people. We all know that there are extra toxins on the planet than there’ve ever been, proper? We all know that now research with twine blood that there are a lot of, many toxins already in utero when a child is born. So, and people toxins are growing day by day. And if you would like, we are able to get into why that’s.
We’re, you understand, quite a lot of kids are already being, infants are being born with leaky guts. Extra kids are being born with C-sections. Extra mothers are getting antibiotics, you understand, when in utero and getting these toxins, consuming a weight-reduction plan that’s inflammatory. So infants are already being born with, you understand, little intestine microbiome or a disturbed microbiome with C-sections and simply, you understand, how we’re going by means of the world.
Our weight-reduction plan, we, you understand, processed meals. We had been simply at an enormous water park yesterday and looking out round, I imply, the variety of people who I noticed that had been simply in weight. And I imply, I’m not even speaking trying match was only a few. So we’re already, you understand, we’re many, many individuals in our society now are simply consuming very inflammatory diets with these overly processed meals. As you understand, the wheat has been modified. And so there’s extra gluten in our wheat. There’s roundup in our meals. And so we’re already having inflammatory meals. Leaky guys had been having extra toxins.
We’re residing in a stressed world. We have now EMFs bombarding as we have now our cell telephones on always had been accessible. The stressors dealing with us every single day of simply elevated as effectively. After which infections an increasing number of infections, proper? I imply, we noticed, you understand, with the pandemic with Covid. I imply, we have now these Infections, whether or not they’re viruses, the Parasites, their micro organism, they’re changing into tremendous bugs, they’re changing into reactivated, they’re changing into, you understand, they’re residing inside ourselves and probably getting reactivated over time. How many individuals have you learnt which have had COVID a number of instances? So what’s that doing to our immune techniques?
And definitely, I hope on this dialog, we’ll get into the options as a result of I’d by no means wish to, inform folks large, scary ideas and that, and simply to get them overwhelmed as a result of I’m actually a options oriented individual.
However these are the issues that I see which can be actually contributing to autoimmunity and simply continual irritation that’s resulting in, weight problems that’s resulting in… dysregulation of our metabolism that’s resulting in diabetes, you understand, all of those very continual and albeit preventable ailments that we have now now.
Katie: Yeah, such as you, I believe this can be a very multifaceted drawback. And I like that you just take a multifaceted method as a result of I’ve seen many individuals wanna deal with simply a kind of areas. And definitely if it had been simply weight-reduction plan, I take a look at the info and say like, our diets truly haven’t modified sufficient to justify the rise in weight problems, even alone or diabetes. There’s clearly many elements contributing, but additionally I do know, and I do know you communicate to this quite a bit as effectively. Such as you mentioned, there are a lot of options and there nonetheless is potential to dwell optimally when you could have the data to try this.
I additionally really feel such as you had been forward of the pattern, you and your mother and father with the meditation aspect, you talked about stress being an enormous issue. And never that that’s by any means a cure-all, however I’d say the overwhelming majority of people that come on this podcast even talked about meditation as being a extremely priceless instrument. And we all know that like psychological well being and mindset additionally impacts our bodily physique and the analysis appears to simply improve on that. I’d guess many individuals can also resonate with even your story of getting to demand a workup out of your physician. I hear from so many mothers and ladies who know one thing’s incorrect and are disregarded. I had the identical expertise being informed every part’s effective, your thyroid is regular and having to demand very particular checks to even get a solution.
After which from there to determine options largely alone, as a result of I didn’t have a you shut by in my early phases that might assist me get there extra rapidly. So I really like that we now have a lot extra data and other people such as you who’re serving to folks get particular focused data. I’d like to go just a little deeper past, I really like as an illustration, that you just outline autoimmunity as a spectrum. I believe that’s a extremely useful instrument versus a easy sure or no, do or don’t type of reply.
However then inside that, there are such a lot of classes of autoimmunity. So are there frequent causes that may type of present up within the physique in another way primarily based on genetics as an illustration, or do issues appear to line up with like particular triggers creating extra particular sorts of autoimmunity?
Dr Amy Myers: This can be a nice query. I imply, the analysis reveals that, you understand, actually solely 20% is genetic primarily based. I imply, again within the day, we thought as all of us, I’m positive you’ve talked many instances in your podcast about epigenetics. You had this gene, you bought this illness. We now know that these genes will be turned on and off, and these SNPs. And we all know that folks, even with out the genes for Celiac, can truly get Celiac. So it’s not all concerning the genes. The truth is, about 75% of it’s these environmental elements that I simply talked about. And in order that’s truly essentially the most empowering a part of all of this, is that’s in your management.
And that’s actually what I speak about in all of my books is about, as an alternative of getting laden by all of this data, take into consideration that, two thirds or three fourths of it’s in your management and issues that you are able to do to alter, which is how we’re capable of reverse autoimmunity.
So again to the autoimmune, I imply, I may see three folks with, let’s simply say Hashimoto’s or Graves. And the explanation that these three folks have that very same illness might be for vastly totally different causes. One may actually simply have a gluten sensitivity and leaky intestine and we get them off gluten, heal their intestine and their antibodies are reversing for Hashimoto’s.
The opposite might be that they’re in a, very worrying relationship and a horrible job and stress is their greatest set off they usually even have a gluten sensitivity. After which the third individual may have all 5 of them. I imply, I do know that all through my lifetime and issues have come and gone, I undoubtedly had all 5. And by the point I used to be seeing folks with seven, eight autoimmune circumstances, in fact they often had all 5.
However in typical medication, as we’re taught to listen to a illness, identify the illness, give a drug, we’re not even thought to ask about what’s occurring or search for the deeper root trigger. However even when we had been, I’m positive they might be saying, oh, effectively, it’s Hashimoto’s and these are your solely causes. And it’s merely not true. I imply, I noticed it day in and day trip in my clinic of simply, how persons are coming.
Now, I’d say primarily based on the literature and the analysis of Alessio Fasano, given gluten and autoimmunity and the speculation behind molecular mimicry, and in case your listeners don’t know what that’s, I’m completely happy to enter it, I do suggest that everyone who’s on the spectrum has antibodies or has truly been recognized with autoimmunity get off of gluten due to these cross-reactivity on this molecular mimicry. It’s so very sturdy, notably with thyroid circumstances or autoimmune thyroid circumstances. In order that’s why I did point out gluten in every of these examples as a result of the correlation is so excessive that I do suggest everyone who has autoimmunity be off of gluten.
Katie: That is sensible. And definitely like my mother and father, as an illustration, have seen that change themselves as they’ve gotten older they usually benefited from going off gluten. Although I do hear from lots of people that discover in sure different locations on the planet, they really appear to do exactly effective with sure meals that they can not eat within the U.S. And I’m curious when you’ve had expertise with that and if you understand any of the explanation why is the meals provide that totally different elsewhere in comparison with the U.S.?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, so I too have heard that and I’ve traveled to Europe however due to my historical past and what I do know, I don’t tempt destiny and I don’t eat gluten after I’m in a foreign country. I actually heard that point and time once more from sufferers in my clinic that they did that. However I additionally had a lady who was recognized with polymyositis and he or she was doing very effectively. After which she went to Europe and he or she ate a bunch of gluten and didn’t really feel prefer it affected her however then she got here again and had a really large flare. So if you’re recognized with full-blown autoimmunity, I nonetheless wouldn’t suggest that you just try this. Nevertheless, the speculation behind that is that they’ve a lot, let’s simply take Europe for instance, a lot stricter legal guidelines about utilizing Roundup, about genetically modifying their meals. They’re utilizing historic grains. They’re not utilizing the identical degree of pesticides. Typically, they’re consuming a more healthy weight-reduction plan however apparently the wheat is extra of our historic wheat.
And simply to remind your listeners, so what occurred with our wheat is we didn’t modify it. We hybridized it. And once we hybridized it, it meant that this might be develop heartier, it may develop larger but it surely additionally had extra gluten in our wheat. And in order that’s actually a part of the issue is, and then you definitely add Roundup on high of it, which is meant to, you understand, improve the permeability of your mind, your intestine, the entire toxins with Roundup disrupt your microbiome, then we actually have this drawback, proper? I imply, it’s not, it’s that our wheat has extra gluten in it, it’s that it’s full of Roundup, it’s that we’re residing with leaky guts, most of us, after which we’re consuming a lot extra gluten.
So it’s in every part, not simply bread. It’s from our shampoos to the a lot of the sushi that has crab meat in it’s not actual crab meat, it’s truly a glutinous, you understand, it’s truly all gluten to create this mock crab meat, for instance. So we’re simply getting uncovered on so many various ranges and in such a extra intense method than our mother and father or actually our grandparents or nice grandparents.
Katie: And I’d like to now begin going by means of out of your ethos, the answer targeted kind of information and contact factors of a few of these totally different circumstances. As a result of like I mentioned, I do know many individuals listening have or are experiencing a few of them.
And I’d say going in a single unrelated tip that I at all times give at first of this dialog is I realized to shift my, even my speech and the way I discuss to myself from as an alternative of claiming, “I’ve Hashimoto’s”, I’d say “I’m therapeutic from Hashimoto’s” simply because I really feel just like the mindset is a large piece as effectively. However on that observe, I really feel prefer it’s actually useful to have the instruments to understand how we’re going to heal from these varied issues.
And also you’ve talked about intestine well being as a foundational factor to quite a lot of totally different circumstances. So I’d love to begin there and listen to out of your perspective, what are among the key issues that folks want to pay attention to and keep away from in terms of intestine well being? And what are among the key kind of universally helpful issues we are able to do to enhance our intestine well being?
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, if I could digress to 1 story that hints to your speaks to your chatting with your self and it’s a very highly effective story of a lady in my clinic who had vitiligo and he or she had. She had moved right here from Africa and he or she labored and he or she had been beneath a really abusive excessive state of affairs and was capable of come into the nation due to that. After which she felt her want to present again to the folks of her nation that had been additionally my immigrating into, into the USA was to be an interpreter.
And what I realized from talking along with her was that she needed to, as an interpreter in a courtroom of regulation, it’s important to say, I this and I that not they, it’s important to be the individual to interpret. And so what I noticed after going by means of many visits with this lady and never making quite a lot of progress is that I believed that she was taking up every of these folks’s tales by saying, I, I this, I that. So she was reliving, although it was their trauma, she was reliving it as if it was her personal trauma. And I advised that she wanted to surrender her profession or her job. She didn’t take that evenly, however anyway, about six months later, she known as again or emailed me again and mentioned that she lastly did and her vitiligo was beginning to resolve. So it’s simply chatting with what you had been saying and the ability of the thoughts of setting your self up for these, setting your physique, making ready your physique in any respect ranges, making ready yourselves for therapeutic. And that journey will be very totally different for everybody.
So again to the intestine. Effectively, let me say that I’ve 4 pillars within the Myers method, which is this system that I got here up with after working with tens of 1000’s of sufferers. And the primary one is to eliminate gluten, grains and legumes. And I discussed the molecular mimicry with gluten grains. I do know legumes, you’ve in all probability talked about this extensively, can have anti-nutrient properties. They will have lectins in them, issues that may irritate the intestine. I used to be a vegetarian for 27 years. I imply, I had quite a lot of intestine dysbiosis occurring.
After which there are infections corresponding to Candida, SIBO which can be consumed carbs, even when they’re wholesome carbs as beans and rice and issues like that. So I do suggest that folks give this stuff up, gluten indefinitely, however the grains and legumes, at the very least for days or longer until they begin, heal your intestine after which we are able to dive into you particularly. There’s a 4 hour program with therapeutic your intestine and we’ll dive into that and the specifics that I take advantage of.
Then we need to tame the toxins and that’s actually about, look we dwell in a poisonous world. So I like to recommend if you’ll be able to, to create an surroundings at house, at your workplace, wherever you’re spending most time, that filters these. How will we get toxins? Effectively, we breathe them in, we get them in by means of our pores and skin and we ingest them in. So having HEPA air filters in your house when you can, having water filtration not simply at your faucet but additionally you understand in your showers, utilizing all-natural toxin-free cleansing merchandise and wonder merchandise after which you understand ensuring you’re consuming natural. So did I get by means of pores and skin, breathe, yeah okay.
And then you definitely need to work to get them out, that’s my two-step course of. So that you need to, how do you get them out? You pee them out, you poop them out, you sweat them out. So that you need to ensure you’re peeing and pooping every single day, you need to ensure you’re exercising or doing infrared sauna, one thing to sweat every single day when you can. After which you understand I take advantage of two dietary supplements that in fact we have now glutathione and coconut charcoal. So acetylated glutathione, you have to guarantee that it’s acetylated. Some folks use liposomal, I examined all of them in my clinic. I favor an acetylated glutathione for me personally and what I noticed discovered work finest. After which you understand in order that pulls the toxins out after which one thing like coconut charcoal goes to bind it. So peeing, pooping, sweating each single day.
Then we need to relieve our stress. I don’t say, you understand, eliminate your stress or, you understand, as a result of we dwell in a worrying world and you’ll’t simply say, okay, I’m not gonna be careworn. You’ve acquired to search out methods to present pause. So I’ve relieve stress and heal infections. And relieving stress is absolutely concerning the issues that we talked about. And look, I realized meditation, you understand, 30-something years in the past and I don’t at all times try this every single day. So it’s discovering what works for you, proper? I imply, is {that a} stroll for me? I do quite a lot of swimming. It’s the one place, hyperbaric and swimming, it’s the one place no person can trouble me and get to me. So these are large stress relievers for me, however you have to discover what works for you, your downtime.
After which the infections are these continual infections corresponding to Epstein-Barr, herpes, these latent infections that may reactivate a continual Lyme and coping with these infections. And, you understand, I can undergo some methods if you would like for these as effectively.
In order that’s the 4 pillars. After which again to therapeutic your intestine, which is likely one of the main elements of one of many second pillar of the 4 pillar program. And there’s kind of the 4R method, which I’m positive you’ve had lots of people speaking about. However once more, the very first thing is to take away. And what are you eradicating? It’s again to those meals. You wanna take away gluten, you wanna dairy. Gluten and dairy are the 2 most inflammatory meals, however sugars, processed meals, meals dyes, GMOs, I imply, you need to get this stuff out of your weight-reduction plan.
And most significantly, you wanna take away any infections which can be in your intestine. And that is totally different than these continual infections. That is SIBO, Candida, Parasites. And definitely you probably have auto-immunity, very uncommon, I noticed anybody that didn’t have one or each of these. They usually’ve now turn into, when you’re on social media, everyone’s speaking about SIBO and Candida. I imply, again after I was, you understand, you talked about I used to be one of many originals. I imply, I used to be, I imply, again after I was speaking about these things 10-15 years in the past, there weren’t many individuals speaking about this. And I noticed it extensively in my clinic, eliminating SIBO, eliminating Candida. We will additionally stroll by means of how, you understand, I’m completely happy to share precisely how to try this.
And then you definitely need to change something that’s lacking. So are you low in abdomen acid? Lots of people are, you understand, they’ve been taking acid blockers. You want that acid to kill off Parasites. You want that acid to kill off SIBO, to kill off Candida. You want that acid, in fact, to interrupt down your proteins and the remainder of your meals. Do you want digestive enzymes? Lots of people are low of their digestive enzymes as a result of they’ve been consuming horrible continual diets, or they’ve been on continual PPIs, or different drugs which have, you understand, prevented their precise, you understand, their pancreas and their gallbladder from truly working. So I changed these issues. Generally that’s briefly, typically that’s, you understand, very long-term, however quite a lot of instances as folks start to heal, they’ll get off of those dietary supplements. However in my expertise, it’s, it’s, you understand, it may be, you understand, intensive on the, you understand, complement and dietary life-style change at first. After which, you understand, as you progress down the spectrum, you’ll be able to see the place you’ll be able to liberate.
You need to… you need to re-inoculate with a superb prime quality, excessive dose probiotic. Now, when you’re coping with Candida, I like to recommend we have now 100 billion unit probiotic. In the event you’re coping with SIBO although, I like to recommend a soil-based probiotic as a result of SIBO is Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth and that may typically be an overgrowth of lactobacillus. And most traditional probiotics or prime quality, no matter, have lactobacillus in them and ours do as a result of it’s the primary micro organism in our intestine. And in order that’s the place I differ on these two.
After which we truly need to, take away, reinoculate, effectively, I suppose restore. And I’m doing that typically. Your intestine cells flip over each 24-48 hours. So that they’re gonna restore typically on their very own. However I usually suggest that folks do one thing to assist this course of jumpstart this course of. And we have now a product known as Leaky Intestine Revive. It’s truly one in all our primary merchandise. And it’s 3000 milligrams of L-glutamine, which is the amino acid that helps your cells rejuvenate, but additionally what we have now within the product is quite a lot of various things that assist you to to provide mucus. So if you consider your intestine, what’s it? I imply, it’s a mucus membrane. And lots of people are lacking that mucus or have the mucus degree has been disturbed. So it’s slippery elm, marshmallow root, Deglycyrrhizinated licorice to assist your physique create extra mucus in the complete GI tract.
And so these are the 4 issues that I do to assist restore your intestine well being. And infrequently the following query is, do I’ve to do this stuff without end? You understand, it actually is dependent upon the place you’re trying and the place you might be on that spectrum. And, you understand, I take Leaky Intestine Revive, many, many days of the week. We dwell in a poisonous world and I simply, you understand, to maintain myself in addition to a probiotic and digestive enzyme, so.
Katie: Yeah. So I took so many notes on that. I really like additionally that you just speak about that simplification course of that always it’s the taking away of the publicity and it’s not usually that we have now to essentially accomplish that many sophisticated issues as soon as we perceive the issue.
And that I really like additionally that you just discuss a lot concerning the physique kind of being designed to heal and that it regenerates and that it’s meant to maneuver towards therapeutic if we assist it in doing that. And that story you informed about her internal discuss might be essentially the most profound instance I’ve heard of that. That’s unbelievable.
Additionally from a intestine well being perspective, I’d love your type of affirm or deny from a health care provider’s perspective. There’s additionally been on like Instagram and TikTok, quite a lot of circulating speak about how we’d like variety in what we do devour to assist type of tradition the correct stability of intestine micro organism. So that you talked about avoiding the triggers like gluten and dairy and legumes, but additionally it looks like quite a lot of us are consuming type of only a very slim vary of plant meals and that we are able to profit from a wider vary of greens and vegetation and spices which have totally different advantages. Do you agree with that evaluation and issues like fermented meals being helpful as effectively?
Dr Amy Myers: Yep, so the quick reply is sure, and I’ll get to fermented meals in a second, and if I get off on a tangent, please remind me. However so yeah, I imply, and in addition there’s even, relying on the place your ancestry’s from as to what microbiota may be in several proportions inside your intestine, in your microbiome. So individuals who dwell in Asia or descendants of Asia, Africa versus United States, are you largely European? There are ancestrally totally different microbiota, and so there are a lot of checks. I don’t know when you’re related to one like microbiome or Viome or someplace else, so you probably have one that you just suggest. Look, they’re all, it’s fairly new analysis, so there’s quite a lot of debate about how correct this stuff are. They are often useful although, however not solely would you like variety inside your personal intestine, you wanna just be sure you’re getting the variety that’s meant in your ancestral historical past.
And in order that may be very sophisticated, and understanding that, and so utilizing a few of these checks, I believe that they are often good as a information. And sure, if we’re trying again to how we ate, our ancestors ate, they didn’t have the, as you understand, stroll into the grocery retailer or Instacart and have somebody ship your contemporary berries to you all 12 months spherical. We ate a a lot wider number of a weight-reduction plan and we stopped and began varied issues relying on after they had been in season. And that allowed for variety simply inherently since you ate what was accessible to you. So sure, I imply, look, all of us, even these of us on this world, proper, the place I imagine I’m, actually we’re busy, we’re creatures of habits, we all know what we like. It’s tremendous simple, you pick meal plans and also you repeat them time and again. However sure, ideally we’d all be consuming much more variety.
Again to the fermented meals, I imagine that I differ right here than many individuals. And this once more relies on my expertise as a clinician working with 1000’s of sufferers, which is since most individuals, at the very least that I noticed with auto-immunity had been coming in with SIBO and Candida, I don’t suggest fermented meals proper off the bat. And this was a really, you understand, paleo fx. I believe that’s the place you and I truly met, you understand, and I spoke there for a lot of, a few years, and I’d at all times have folks come as much as me afterwards and say, I began consuming all these fermented meals as a result of everyone right here is telling me to try this. And I acquired all this gasoline and all this bloating and I really feel depressing.
Effectively, fermented meals is supposed to, I like to consider your intestine type of like as a fish bowl. And it’s fish meals to feed all of the fish, that are the nice micro organism and micro organism, I imply, unhealthy micro organism. You have got good micro organism, unhealthy micro organism, just a little little bit of yeast, possibly some Parasites in your intestine. In a perfect world, it’s residing there harmoniously in an ideal stability. When this stuff get out of stability, when you’re feeding in fish meals, then the Candida, the SIBO, they’re gonna eat this up as effectively. So that’s the good instance. In the event you begin to take a prebiotic, you’re taking fermented meals and also you’re studying someplace and you’re taking that and also you get bloated, you could have gasoline, you don’t really feel effectively, it might be that you just took an excessive amount of, however typically, and you have to begin off slowly, typically that to me tells me that you’ve Candida or SIBO or each as a result of it’s feeding these infections.
So my advice for my sufferers and what I like to recommend in all of my articles is to carry off on the fermented meals and the prebiotics and all that stuff, eliminate these infections. When you’ve gotten rid of those infections, you’ve gotten your microbiome cleaned out to principally all the great things, then begin including within the fish meals, begin including within the prebiotics, begin including within the fermented meals and assist to flourish and reestablish and maintain that microbiome in stability.
Katie: And I do know that it looks like SIBO and Candida are recurring themes. I’m assuming you see these an entire lot in your clinic. Every other suggestions particular to these and or simply signs that folks may… to concentrate to, that will be a sign that that will be a superb factor to see you probably have.
Dr Amy Myers: Yeah, okay. So sure, after writing a thyroid e-book and an autoimmune e-book, the primary factor that folks come to us for is SIBO and Candida. So I’d love to speak about these.
So first, Candida is Candida overgrowth. All of us have just a little little bit of Candida, however that is when it will get overgrown. So what are some set off phrases for me? Mind fog. That if I hear mind fog, primary factor that I’m considering, apart from possibly gluten sensitivity, is Candida, unexplained rashes, itchy rashes, stuff you’ve gone to the dermatologist, they don’t know after they’re like put a cream on it. That always is candida. Psoriasis, eczema often has a candida underline. After all, you probably have recurrent yeast infections, you could have recurrent dandruff, issues like that, that’s yeast. So, after which, so gasoline, bloating, diarrhea, constipation, you’ll be able to have any of those, however typically it’s these pores and skin points and the mind fog is the primary factor I consider.
How do I take care of candida? You go on a low carb weight-reduction plan, a candida accepted weight-reduction plan, and also you’re not, for my part, consuming these fermented meals. You’re undoubtedly eliminating sugars and carbs. After which what I take advantage of for my sufferers, we have now a candida equipment and program, so I created two dietary supplements. One, Candefense, and the opposite is Caprylic Acid. Caprylic Acid comes from coconut. It’s the acid within the coconut, so it type of pokes these holes within the E-cell wall. After which the candefense is enzymes that digest the cell wall. And then you definitely re-inoculate with actually good high quality excessive probiotics. We have now 100 billion unit probiotic. In order that’s my Candida.
SIBO is Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth. And the triggers that I hear there are bloating is absolutely the largest one. I wakened, my abdomen was flat. I ate one meal. I seemed six months pregnant. Rosacea is an enormous one for that one. After which the opposite is most individuals consider SIBO as having diarrhea, but it surely truly could cause constipation in lots of people.
And there may be additionally a SIBO Hashimoto’s connection, as a result of you probably have low thyroid, then your digestion slows down, the meals is left in your intestine longer, after which the micro organism there go in to digest they usually’re simply creating these totally different gasses. After which it’s additionally a 3 step program. The weight-reduction plan is similar to the Candida one. The truth is, you’ll be able to principally use the identical and we frequently have individuals who come to us they usually’re treating each on the identical time and I’ll be completely happy to handle how to try this as a result of it’s barely totally different if you’re making an attempt to do each.
So weight-reduction plan, you wanna starve the yeast, I imply, starve the SIBO. Then you definately wanna prune again the SIBO with microbe. We use a herb microbe clear. Now, if you’re seeing a doctor as a result of this has turn into extra well known and there may be an antibiotic, Zifaxin, which I’ve taken a number of instances. I’ve given it to my sufferers. It’s one of many few antibiotics I prescribe, very particular to the intestine. It does typically work very effectively. Nevertheless, it’s very costly and most insurance coverage doesn’t cowl it. In order that’s why I created the micro clear as a result of I had all these folks in my clinic that might not afford to pay 1000’s of {dollars} for this antibiotic. I imply, some had been so determined. They did, however the herbs work very well. It’s, you understand, berberine, wormwood, black walnut, a bunch of, herbs that simply kind of pr need to kill all of your good micro organism. An excessive amount of of a superb factor created a foul state of affairs, to kill again among the you need to re inoculate you re-inoculate as I said. So when you wanna deal with each on the identical time, what I like to recommend is it’s primarily the identical weight-reduction plan. After which you’ll be able to take the MicroClear, the Caprylic Acid and the Candefenol all at one time. You’ll be able to work your method up and we clarify how to try this. After which what you wanna do first is to take the soil-based probiotic and ensure you’ve gotten rid of the SIBO first. And after getting, you’ll then take the billion unit probiotic after that. So it will be like a 30 days as an alternative of and are kind of 30 days, you’re doing 60 days of all of this.
Katie: That is sensible.
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And I’m glad that you just introduced up enzymes as effectively, as a result of that was on my listing to ask you about. It looks like it’s not even simply what we eat essentially, but additionally how a lot we are able to digest and take in of what we eat. And it looks like I’m seeing extra in analysis and from folks I do know such as you, speaking concerning the significance of enzymes, which might actually be useful as we become older, or if we have now particular circumstances particularly. I see that in minerals as recurring themes proper now. It looks like many individuals have struggles in each of these areas. Do you discover these are frequent in your sufferers as effectively?
Dr Amy Myers: Completely. So simply to be clear, the enzymes I used to be referring to within the within the candefense are enzymes that break down the yeast cell wall. However I sure, our digestive enzymes are one in all our high sellers as a result of so many individuals do have these points of getting been on continual drugs and whatnot. And I at all times mentioned in my clinic, it’s not the saying the previous saying that you just at all times heard you might be what you eat. It’s truly you might be what you digest and take in. So there have been loads of folks once more, as a result of they learn the books earlier than they got here or they met me at paleofx they usually had been already coming in consuming these actually good diets. However then I’d do lab testing on them to have a look at their minerals, to have a look at their vitamin ranges, to look intracellularly at what was occurring. They usually weren’t getting the advantage of this. So that you will be consuming one of the best weight-reduction plan on the planet. However when you then can not digest and take in it, you probably have low abdomen acid and also you’re not breaking down the proteins into amino acids, then you definitely’re not absorbing it. In the event you don’t have what you have to break down carbs and fat, you might not be absorbing it.
Or, you understand, you probably have that after which it will get all the best way all the way down to your small gut and then you definitely’ve acquired SIBO disrupting it, or you could have leaky intestine and then you definitely’re not absorbing these. So I imply, the intestine, I at all times say is the inspiration and the gateway to your well being. I imply, in case your intestine will not be functionally on all ranges at an optimum degree, you’re both have already got issues otherwise you’re going to have issues. And that’s the reason as a result of I communicate a lot about this, although I’ve written these different books, I believe folks come to me for intestine as a result of I simply noticed it time and time once more, and individuals who had no digestive points. I imply, individuals who got here in and mentioned, oh, no, no, I’m consuming this nice weight-reduction plan. You understand, I’ve two bowel actions a day. I don’t have any gasoline. I don’t have any bloating. I’m effective.
After which we do a complete stool check. We’d see their digestive enzymes are low. We’d see they’ve vegetable fibers of their stool. We see, you understand, we see their amino acids are low. And I may see it in all of those useful labs, not typical labs, however useful labs of how, you understand, they thought that their intestine was effective. They usually had been consuming this unbelievable weight-reduction plan, however with out having their pure inherent potential to interrupt down and digest and take in issues, take in their vitamins, they had been then poor in these.
And, you understand, by way of mineral deficiency, I believe that that’s in all probability twofold. One, our meals may be very totally different than it was for our ancestors. There are a lot of, many research that I do know you’re conscious of, of. You understand, our soil will not be as nutrient dense because it was earlier than. So then the vegetation arising out of the soil don’t have the identical degree of vitamins they used to have. After which once more, we’re residing on this poisonous world, our guts are leaky. In order that’s resulting in mineral and vitamin deficiencies. And it’s frankly why I like to recommend everyone take a multivitamin day by day. I imply, I’ve an article on this about all the explanations everyone needs to be taking a multivitamin due to what we’re simply discussing, the soil, the nutrient degree in our meals, our leaky guts, our lack of ability to digest and take in.
Katie: Yeah, I’m glad that you just acquired to elucidate that so comprehensively, as a result of I’ve puzzled if that is truly one other lacking piece due to the depletion of our meals provide and why we’ll see individuals who look like in actually good well being who may have these random circumstances that appear to come back out of nowhere. And it looks like at the very least a few of them might be linked to mineral deficiencies that folks wouldn’t essentially even concentrate on. So I’m so glad that we acquired to speak about that.
I’d additionally love to listen to any suggestions that you’ll be able to simply kind of typically give to your sufferers or that you could give listed here are kind of the 80/20 that transfer us towards optimum or that appear to be comparatively universally helpful. One I’ve given on right here time and again, as an illustration, is the significance of pure gentle, which is free. I’ve seen an enormous distinction even in my labs from getting morning daylight and just a little little bit of mid day, noon daylight every single day, which is sensible once we take into account that our our bodies have {an electrical} element and that we’d like gentle for thus many issues to occur inside our physique.
However I’m positive that you’ve a way more complete listing. So for anyone who’s making an attempt to maneuver that needle towards optimum, what could be among the issues on that listing for you?
Dr Amy Myers: So I suppose once we had been speaking about toxins, I didn’t end my considered saying that, you mentioned 80-20 and my thoughts simply went to the 80-20 rule. So let me go to toxins after which I’ll speak about weight-reduction plan.
Toxins, so we have now a house, and I perceive not everyone can have this stuff, however we have now a house air filtration system, water filtration system, all of this stuff that I talked about, we solely eat natural in our home. And that’s in order that after I exit into the world, I make one of the best decisions that I can, however I acknowledge that I journey. I’ve a baby. We, you understand, I used to be telling you, we had been at a water park yesterday. They mentioned no outdoors meals. We introduced outdoors meals. I imply, we simply defined we have now quite a lot of meals sensitivities, proper? So we’re not pressured to eat that meals, however then I’m in very chlorinated water, proper? I imply, I dwell a life, but when in your personal surroundings, you’ll be able to management what you’ll be able to management, then you definitely exit into the world and also you do one of the best that you could. However there’s no technique to keep away from this stuff. And so I undoubtedly observe that as a rule. Like, you understand, be as strict as you’ll be able to in your personal house after which go benefit from the world and do one of the best you’ll be able to if you’re on the market.
Now, in terms of weight-reduction plan, there are particular elements that I don’t, in terms of auto-immunity and the hyperlink with gluten after which the molecular mimicry and the cross-reactivity of gluten with casein, I don’t suggest anyone with auto-immunity eat dairy or gluten. And so for me, these are non-negotiables it doesn’t matter what. In the event you had a gun to my head, I’d not eat gluten, or dairy, however so these will not be negotiables. However once more, I do suppose it goes again to what you had been saying. In the event you’re consuming natural or you probably have the freedom or as you’ve moved your method down the autoimmune spectrum, it’s to not say I by no means eat sugar, it’s to not say I by no means eat corn, it’s to not say that I don’t ever eat grains or legumes. I’m in Texas, love some black beans and rice, however I do this stuff occasionally to the place that I do know after I’m consuming my leaky intestine revive every single day or, taking my enzymes after I exit, I can do this stuff, proper? I’m effectively, however I’ve gotten hit with poisonous mould 3 times in my life now. And I’ve moved up that autoimmune spectrum. After which I’ve acquired to get again to very clearly doing issues, um, in a really deliberate method and being far more cautious than after I’m effectively and might, can return down, down the spectrum.
So I don’t know if that totally answered your query or if you would like me to consider another issues which can be free. I imply, stress reduction typically is free. My swimming is free that I do. Hyperbarics might not be, taking part in together with your youngster, taking part in together with your pet, going outdoors in pure gentle, sleep. I imply, the one folks say, how do you do every part that you just do? Effectively, it’s solely as a result of I do have a husband that if I have to, if there’s one thing occurring with the canines or a daughter will get up in the course of the evening, I would like my sleep. If I don’t get my sleep, I transfer up that spectrum on autoimmunity. So sleep is free. Perhaps everyone doesn’t have the identical assist that I’ve, however sleep is a superb free useful resource that permits your physique to heal and permits your physique to detox. And I make certain to one of the best of my potential that I get a stable eight, if not ten hours of sleep is what I would like to essentially be optimum in my life.
Katie: Yeah, the just about 700 folks I’ve had on this podcast, I’m but to listen to a single individual say sleep will not be vital. It looks like the one universally agreed upon factor. And such as you mentioned, sleep itself is free. There’s tons we are able to do to optimize sleep, which I are inclined to prioritize even in my funds as a result of we spend hopefully a lot time sleeping that I really feel like adjustments we make there have advantages and sleep makes all these different issues we’re speaking about a lot more practical as a result of your pure physique is ready to like rebuild and heal throughout sleep. So I really like that as a common tip, one which undoubtedly can’t be overstated. So I really like that you just introduced that up.
And as we transfer towards the top, a couple of questions I like to ask. The primary being if there’s a e-book or various books which have profoundly impacted you personally, and in that case, what they’re and why.
Dr Amy Myers: Effectively, the one which I considered if you, I knew you had been gonna ask me this query was M. Scott Peck’s The Highway Much less Traveled. I believed I needed to be a medical psychologist, however I learn that e-book, in highschool, I imagine. And I believe the factor about it for me is my life has been the street much less traveled. I imply, as you talked about, I used to be actually one of many originals again in useful medication, talking about all of these things. And it’s important to be courageous to try this. I imply, to be frank, I wrote an article simply actually quoting the CDC about issues you could possibly do in lieu of a flu vaccine and acquired reported to the medical board. And it was proper earlier than my first e-book was popping out.
I do really feel between the Peace Corps, the Chinese language herbs, conventional typical medical faculty to then going to turn into a useful medication doctor that I’ve actually embodied that in my life and simply encourage folks to observe the street much less traveled. I imply, fortunately for folks like your self, you could have helped get the phrase out and broaden the message that useful medication and different issues can be found to folks as an alternative of typical medication. So thanks very a lot for you following the street much less traveled and getting that out, however letting folks know that you just don’t must be afraid to journey this street much less traveled. And there will be nice profit on the finish of it that doesn’t contain a lot of medication and a poor high quality of life. It truly entails possibly merely giving up a pair meals, including in some daylight, therapeutic your intestine. And you may have an unbelievable life pain-free and drug-free.
Katie: I undoubtedly second that e-book advice. And in addition thanks to the work of you and so many others who’ve helped make this message way more accessible to everybody on the market. I do know I hear from so many mothers who at the moment are shifting into the useful medication method with their households, which is absolutely encouraging for me to see, as a result of I believe when the mothers begin making the shift, that’s when society actually begins to shift. And I do know you’re a mother as effectively. So I’m actually grateful for the work that you just’ve performed. And lastly, any parting recommendation for the listeners immediately that might be associated to every part we’ve talked about or fully unrelated life recommendation that you’ve discovered useful.
Dr Amy Myers: That could be a large query. However I believe the one factor that’s calling me at this second, and I don’t know when you’ve performed a podcast on hyperbaric, and I’m actually not a hyperbaric knowledgeable, however I can simply communicate to when you’ve hit a plateau in your autoimmune journey, and also you’ve been working with a useful medication doctor, and also you’ve adopted the issues that I’ve laid out immediately, and also you’re not getting effectively, look into hyperbaric, I’ve seen essentially the most profound, therapeutic from hyperbaric of a lady who was in, I had a plateau with, she was in a wheelchair and it simply known as me and I mentioned, go do 20 classes of hyperbarics and name me again. And he or she was strolling once more.
I actually acquired to a plateau in my journey at one level a number of years in the past, modified nothing, solely acquired into hyperbarics every single day for nearly a 12 months. All of my autoimmune markers went destructive, they’ve remained destructive. I then acquired COVID, thought I used to be getting Lengthy Haul COVID, 5 classes into hyperbaric and it was fully gone. And definitely anyone coping with lengthy COVID, I’d extremely suggest hyperbaric.
So, that’s, you understand, an increasing number of locations are popping up that you could go kind of like a sauna and pay for a person session. This isn’t a plug and you’ll delete this, however you understand, I’ve an Oxy-Well being one they usually have a hire to personal, you understand, state of affairs if you’re in dire want. And in order that, I don’t know, I used to be simply known as to say that as a result of I really feel prefer it’s one thing that lots of people aren’t speaking about now. And I’ve seen some extremely profound, simply life-changing occasions with hyperbaric when you hit a plateau, or simply as a part of your journey of therapeutic, that’s actually unbelievable.
Katie: Superior. Effectively, I do know you’ve talked about a number of of your books and merchandise immediately. I’ll guarantee that hyperlinks to all of these are within the present notes for you guys. In the event you’re listening on the go, that’s all at wellnessmama.fm. I do know you even have a ton of academic assets accessible in your website, so I’ll ensure you guys can discover these as effectively. Or in fact you’ll be able to Google her identify and it’ll all come up. Thanks a lot for spending time immediately, for attending to go deep on so many of those subjects and for the work that you just’ve performed for now many years, serving to 1000’s and 1000’s of individuals.
Dr Amy Myers: Effectively, thanks a lot for having me and serving to me to get the phrase out. And I actually admire every part that you just do.
Katie: Thanks as at all times to all of you for listening and sharing your most beneficial assets, your time, your power, and your consideration with us immediately. We’re each so grateful that you just did, and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of The Wellness Mama Podcast.
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